Friday, May 30, 2008

Happy Anniversary, everybody!

Yes, the Fugly Blog is officially one year old today. You can read the very first post here.

Check out this
tribute video one of my readers created. Jeez, seeing so much at once like that even makes me sad and I'm pretty jaded when it comes to this stuff.


So, we've gotten a lot of attention here. Some people hate us, some people love us. For the newbies, no, I don't think we should slaughter fugly horses (I get that accusation all the time). Most of what I own is fugly either due to age or having been that way all along - but I don't breed them. Every horse deserves proper care. I do think certain horses deserve it even more (i.e. horses who have had race or performance careers for the entertainment of humans - they deserve that retirement every bit as much as Bob who put in 50 years at the plant.) I think that you shouldn't breed if you can't afford to breed really above-average stock, test for genetic defects (and avoid them when you know about them!), and provide proper care to all of your horses. Yes, broodmares need hoof care too, not just the "ridding horses." I think that you shouldn't rescue if you have made no provision for training the horses once they are in your care. I think that if you can afford to live in Lake Oswego, you can afford retirement board on the horse who got f'ed up in your ownership. I think that people who breed HYPP positive horses are greedy asshats. In my ideal world, we would not ride horses until their three year old year. In my ideal world, there would be huge cash incentives for having a fantastic ten year old pleasure horse. And so on...


The horse industry, as it stands, has encouraged all of the problems we see today and slaughter has been a convenient solution for them. While slaughter hasn't ended, the expense of hauling horses to slaughter has made the prices drop - and the greedy asshats are screaming bloody murder and trying to convince you that ending slaughter is a bad idea and horses are just going to starve. You know what? Some are. I wish I could fix that, but I'd also like to stop child abuse and murder. Um, good luck. Some people are going to suck no matter what we do.


Change is always hard. If you're into history, go back and read the dire predictions of what would happen if we ended slavery, or gave women the right to vote. Man, the WORLD was gonna end! And it would be the worst for the former slaves and the women! The fact is that those changes needed to happen and so does this one. The low end of the market needs to react to the change by reducing production until the supply fails to exceed the demand. This isn't all that complicated. Just stop breeding low end horses. This means you.


"But my foals always sell," I can hear some of you arguing. Let me guess - that has more to do with the fact that you actually handle your foals and train them appropriately and they are nice, people-loving foals that just about sell themselves. If you can do that, kudos to you. Why not, instead of breeding, go down to the auction and rescue some that are already here. Put that training on them and give them a chance at life. If ten percent of you would do that, we'd have the problem pretty much solved. If you love having babies around and have lots of foaling experience, please offer to take in a pregnant mare from a rescue. Rescues could really use you!


What else can you do? Just keep thinking about supply and demand here. We need more good owners, less horses in niches that don't sell well. If you can't help the horses upgrade themselves and become more marketable, help create good owners. Volunteer your time in 4-H or Pony Club. Have a barn? Put on some free clinics to teach people about how to feed an old horse and how to ensure they don't lose weight over the winter. (I definitely want to do that myself this fall - friends and I are talking about it). If you're a trainer, why not have a drawing for one free lesson a month? Put a pot in the tack shop that Mom or Dad can drop their business card into. Maybe you can get a kid who is trying to teach themselves and making a wreck out of themselves and the horse back on the right path. Or help some poor overmounted adult beginner who can't figure out why the stuff in the videos isn't working for her. Something as simple as that may save a horse's life.


If you do breed, follow up. Your registry can tell you who owns your horses, in most cases. Make those phone calls, send those e-mails. See if the horses you produced are doing okay. Take them back if they're not. You created them - you are ultimately responsible for them. Don't like that? Open a factory and make inanimate objects instead.


What if you're a kid? Hey, read Joe's blogs - creative kids everywhere are making a difference. They are collecting money to send to good rescues. They are educating people about horse slaughter and rescue and responsible breeding in chat rooms. They are telling their peers that it's wrong when they have unspayed dogs and cats popping out babies that have a poor chance for a decent future. Remember, peer pressure can be used in healthy and constructive ways - use it. When you have a chance to make a choice about one of your animals, make the right choice. Sitting out the show season, or catch riding sale horses because yours is lame - instead of ditching yours - sends a message to your peers. (Not to mention, all that catch riding makes YOU a better rider and then you can gloat the next year when you are kicking butt at the shows!)


All right, I really am taking a couple of days off, so try not to have hysterics. :-) If you haven't been here from the beginning, go back and read the old blogs. I've given you a starting point. To all of you who read, thanks and I can't tell you how much I enjoy your comments. I am sorry I can't keep up on e-mails - I just can't. Not enough hours in the day. I do work two jobs and have eight horses at home to take care of. Colin is good - plowing happily through knee high grass with his girlfriend, Joy. NC Catnip's two little rescues from this blog are doing great - check out their blog. Scarlet, the emaciated auction rescue, is no longer emaciated and turning back into the absolutely beautiful mare she is - check out her blog.


Remember the horses I posted about from the Mason County hoarder situation in January? I couldn't post the pics I took at the time - now I can. On the left is what Isabella looked like the day I met her - and here she is today, on the right. Big kudos to her foster moms Ginger and Alyssa for bringing her back to health in just five months. Isabella is available for adoption in the Seattle area through SAFE. I do need to get an update on the other Mason County horses and I will work on that for a future blog!

336 comments:

casual observer said...

Happy Anniversary Fugly!

The world is a better place because you are in it. Thank you for all you do!



There are 3 types of people:
*The ones that learn by reading
*The few who learn by observation
*The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence

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Fleeting said...

Happy anniversary, fugly! Thanks for a great year. Your words have made a huge difference in how I look at the horse world and I know I'm not alone in that.

To another year of fuglys! Cheers!

Katie said...

Enjoy your rest...when will you be back?

Denise- LessIsMore17 said...

Great Job Fugs! Enjoy your time off!

Blog well done.

fuglyhorseoftheday said...

I should have a blog up Tuesday but it may not be til evening since that's my first day back at work and I am sure a huge pile will be on my desk waiting for me!

Denise- LessIsMore17 said...

Casual Obv- I didn't pee on it, but I did have to "touch" the electric fence :-x

I'm learning

Crazy3dayer said...

Happy Birthday Fugs. Enjoy your vacation. You deserve it. Although I will be going thru withdrawl..sigh. I think I'll spend the time w/my dictionary learning to spell.

Casual Observer: Hmmmm..I learned by reading and watching how much fun peeing on an electrical fence was. Might of had something to do w/the case of Coors Light we drank :0)

EventGirl said...

Great job fugly! have a great weekend!

casual observer said...

Denise-

The 'lessons' you learn here and in Fugly's Forum is priceless

hint:
sometimes the fence gets shut off :D

Crazy: see what beer does to ya??

4Horses&Holding said...

Happy Anniversary / Birthday, Fugly Blog!

I'm so happy that I found this blog, way back when.... even though my family hasn't been nearly as excited.

There is so much knowledge to be found here, and it's a great supporter & champion of the great HORSE!

You've done a terrific job, Fugly!

Crazy3dayer said...

Casual Observer: I won't tell you the stories about the Crown & Coke or Tequkilla.

equus said...

happy anniversary, our wonderful fuglygirl. you can rest easy at night knowing the difference you have made for our beloved horses. i started reading your blog last july, and even jaded ol' equus here can see the difference one person can make. all we have to do is get off our butts and do something, anything, in the right direction.

there is a spot in heaven waiting just for you, amongst all the great horses.

Lynne said...

Happy Anniversary!
Thanks for educating the world ( or at least trying as we know some folks just will not learn)
Have a great vacation. Hopefully I will not go into FHOTD blog withdrawal.

RidesHorses said...

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY FUGLY!!

As you stated earlier you are way behind on Emails. I came across an email today, knowing how you TOTALLY SUPPORT RIDING ~sarcasm~ 16mo Horses. I just had to send you the letter via email.

in2paints said...

FHOTD brings forth so many emotions for me. Some days I laugh, some days I cry... some days I'm disgusted, some days I'm hopeful. All in all, though, I'm just grateful for the truths that this blog brings to light. It has really opened my eyes.

To Fugs and everyone else that makes a difference, congratulations and keep up the good work. You've really made a difference in the lives of horses, and people too. You're all inspirational.

Happy Anniversary!

autumnblaze said...

Happy Anniversary Fugs!

When I was directed to your site a few months back I lurked for sometime. I love love love what you do here and you've definitely inspired me and taught me a lot. Your VLC blog has given me several tips - singing when I ride to calm ME down so I don't spook my horse... my favorite, but what a simple but fantabulous tip.

I've learned much about conformation and I am one that didn't realize the slaughter situation and the running TB's SO very young was the deal. I've told many about your blog and been able to talk to lots of people about the slaughter issue and why they shouldn't breed their fugly monster :) Enjoy the vacation!!!

fernvalley01 said...

Happy Anniversary and enjoy your much deserved break.

Farmgirl said...

Happy anniversary, Fugs - people love you and hate you and that's quite a compliment either way. Blessings on you, dear heart.

Hurray for Scarlet, Colin, and Isabella! May they be among the many who will be rescued and returned to life.

*backflips*

Sanders BUT not the COLONEL said...

Way to GO! Fugly rocks!

HIGH Five Yourself..............

Broadwaypony said...

I havent been reading long, just short of a month, but I cant thank you enough for reminding me of what horses should be and what most horses actually are.

I love my fuglies, but this time around, I'm going to look for a horse with a little less fug and a little more wow factor.

4Horses&Holding said...

Xiuhcoati - Awesome video! Really great job.

sassysmom said...

Fugs!
I hope you are far from you computer enjoying a well earned rest. I just had to say thank you !
Thank you for your dedication to the horses and thank you so much for your dedication to this blog.
We so appreciate you sharing your gifts with us. I hope that it has changed the lives of many horses and their owners. You are very special!
ok mushy crap over

TBsplease said...

Fugly - Thanks for edumacating me! Enjoy your break and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

sassysmom said...

Wow a yard sale with a pony and free horse. I can just imagine the quality owners this horse and pony will get.
HUGE 5 FAMILY YARD/BARN SALE+A PONY.+ FREE TOVERO FILLY- MAY 31-JUNE 1 (LOMA RICA/MARYSVILLE)

OH YIKES!!!

Sandy M said...

Aaargh. HYPP. Still searching for that nice Appy Trail/lower level dressage horse for my friend. Got a line on two horses in Nevada, a mare and a gelding. Mare is a bit on the small side but short backed, cute... and, fortunately, HYPP N/N. Okay. Scroll down and there's a bigger, slightly older, more training, even more attractive gelding. Wow! Maybe this is the horse! Within the price range, etc..... and then - there it is - HYPP N/H. They are BREEDERS. These are products of there breeding. Guess the mare just lucked out, eh? My friend saw the gelding's pic and was really excited, like him, and then we saw the N/H. Bleaah!!! I hate some people.

Jaxom said...

Thank you for your great blog! My ability to spot conformation flaws on horses has increased immensely because of you. My eyes have been opened to the abuse that some horses suffer in the hands of humans. I have also seen what good people can do to help a horse in need.

As for keeping withdrawal symptoms at bay by reading past blogs, that will not work for me as I have already gone back and read every one of them. Enjoy your time off and thank you again for all of your hard work and dedication.

Sandy M said...

Typos, typos - THEIR breeding, of course.

L said...

Happy ann-i-ver-sar-y,
Happy ann-i-ver-sar-y,
Happy ann-i-ver-sar-y,
HAAA-PPY ANN-I-VER-SAR-Y!

OK, that's all I remember of that song. Yay FHOTD!

CutNJump said...

So much ground covered in such a short amount of time!

Happy Anniversary Fugly Blog!

I can say this, since finding out about this blog on a two-horse-repo-road-trip last August:

I have:

learned some new words and expanded my vocabulary- Aghasted, wasband, hideozygous, nest...

laughed my ass off (repeatedly, yet there is still some left),

spewed and snorked just about every consumable liquid,

shared cookies, popcorn, chips, beer and various other food and drinks with newfound, likeminded, online friends near and far,

been shocked and amazed at what some people consider great- conformation, attitudes, no name pedigrees, no show records...

been aghasted at the level of idiocracy rampant on so many levels in the world and sharing so many age groups...

taken my licks when I was wrong and admitted it and learned when others pointed out things I am or was not aware of,

had my 'oh so proud horsey mom' moments and some 'not so much' moments,

done what I can to help those who will listen,

debated and discussed with others, things we may never agree on,

had a great time sharing in eveyones accomplishments,

and felt the sorrow of others who have had some tough decisions about letting a four legged friend go.

I have met a few other bloggers who are local and even have one as a new client in the barn!

I have also joined up with Sassysmom for the WBST.

I have offered to join many midnight gelding, mare darting and vigilante justice type raids.

It's been one hell of a ride and I can't wait for the next years worth of posts!

apajax6 said...

Wooo, Haappy Birthday Fugly!!!

CutNJump said...

Oh and I have also been able to admit to my Fugly blog addiction!

I will be going through withdrawls like so many others here. Thankfully I have enough to keep me busy for the weekend, but Monday is going to be a BITCH!

The Colonel said...

Congratulations on this blog and have a lovely holiday!

AbbyAugustArabian said...

WHAT!?!? What do you mean no posts till Tuesday. I will DIE! I read FHOTD religously and check it multipul times a day.
I guess I will have to survive though, muahahahaha, I come back to work Tuesday and working in a small business, this site is basically how I spend my day.

Happy Birthday FHOTD!

Congradulations Fugs, you have made it a year without somebody causing you bodily harm for calling them on their fugly ass horses and their dumb training.

Appybutt said...

Happy Anniversary!

A friend at the barn turned me onto this blog, and now I read it regularly. I've even gone back through most of the old posts too!

I have to agree with Fugly's ideal world. It's my dream too. There's more I could add.

In a perfect world...

-people would be colorblind. Horses would be bred solely on merit with no thought to their coloring.

-there would more than enough hay to go around.

-all horses would receive proper vet, farrier, and dental care.

-no horses would go to slaughter.

-EVERYONE would have a trainer.

-everyone would realize that 99% of their problems with horses were due to HUMAN error.

-rescues would be fully funded and BYB would be heavily taxed on every foal they produce.

-all horses would get to live as horses, not in solitary confinement.

-everyone would be required to take lessons, lease a horse, and ride for minimum or 2 years before they could buy a horse.

-everyone would master the English language both in spoken and written form.

Any other suggestions for our perfect world?

lusitano epiphany said...

Hooray for FHOTD, and happy anniversary! I'm so glad you have this blog - it's making a huge difference. Have a wonderful vacation...you deserve it!

hope4more said...

Happy Anniversary!

I am so greatful I found your blog and I found out there are good people in this world trying to do the right thing. Keep up the great work and have a peaceful time off.

The horses everywhere thank you.

KathyP said...

Happy Anniversary!

Someone shared your blog link on a local bulletin board several months ago and, like everyone else here, I'm addicted. I don't often respond but I'm always reading. Who knew there was so much material out there to support your blog--really quite sad. I mean, I'm happy for you that it's such a huge success, but sad at the same time.

Congratulations on actually making a difference!

BuckdOff said...

Yay,Happy Anniversary Fugly, You have really smartened up this re-rider and I appreciate it!!!

sidetracked said...

Hey Fugly,

I just love reading your blog. I read it almost every day and share a lot of the information within the local horse community. Some may think your harsh and rude, but I know it's just keeping it real. Enjoy your horses on the couple of days off and I'll look forward to the next post!

HorseNoir said...

AppyButt said: In a perfect world, "everyone would master the English language both in spoken and written form."

That's always been one of my dreams too!

Thanks, Fugly, for making a life-long horse lover take a long, hard look at my own contributions, good or ill, to the horse world as it exists today. Shine on!~

Chezza said...

THree Cheers for FHOTD and KUDOS to fellowed Fuglyites who keep trying to make the horse world better one horse at a time.

My3Arabs said...

Happy Anniversary!

LuvMyTBs said...

Happy Anniversary FHoTD!!
I to was a long time lurker before I began posting.I have read,learned,laughed,cried,spewed and been able to help a few horses along the way and maybe even a few people.This blog is always informative,as well as sometimes hilarious or leaves me crying.I need my dose of Fugly Reality and always look forward to it.

You ROCK Dear Fugs...keep on blasting us with your wit,humor and compassion for the horses.

sarmichka said...

Happy Anniversary o' Mistress of the FUG!!!

Found your blog back in the beginning. As soon as I read my 1st post I was HOOKED.

I don't post often as I'd been away from horses too long to be of any "real" significance, but drop my 2 cents occasionally.

Overall it has been very educational. And has re-ignited my love, fascination, and passion for horses.


Thank you to ALL of you for what you try to do for them, and thank you for NOT being "fugly-fodder"

SolitaireMare said...

A very well deserved Happy 1st Anniversary Fugs!

Thanks for shaking up the horse community with your open, frank and informative blog. Maybe with every post you add, another horse will be gelded, another owner/rider/trainer/breeder will be informed, another fuglyhorse will be rescued and trained and the next generation of horse LuVrS will become real horsemen.

Enjoy your well deserved break, can't wait to read your posts after your return!

BuckdOff said...

Warning, Kleenex alert on the tribute video!!! Very well done, but really sad, OMG. I hope you have a great vacation and look forward to the next post, Have fun!!

Whoa Mare! said...

Too many horses and too many asshats in the world...I am certainly no expert, but my horses are well cared for. I have no inclination to breed. After my experience with the little colt I "upgraded" I REALLY have no desire to breed! Babies are goofy, nosy little trouble makers! Vet bills in a leather bag, lol. I love him dearly, but knowing how much I am going to be out when it's time to have him started is enough to make me cringe. I can feel good that I am giving one horse a better life. I wish I could do more but I am just not experienced enough nor do I have the funds to take on every horse I feel sorry for. Mostly I just wish there weren't so many horses out there that needed me to feel sorry for them in the first place...

krankedOut said...

just wanted to wish you a very happy anniversary and tell you that i love the work you're doing. i'm a krank by nature, chronically angry over all the crap that goes on, but totally thankful that we have people like you in the world.

Redsmom said...

Happy Anniversary, FHOTD and have a great vacation, Cathy!!

nccatnip said...

Happy Anniversary, Fugs!!!! It would impossible to even try to express how much the blog has become a part of my life, from Prince and Cricket to learning good vs bad breeding and conformation, the meaning of asshat and how times I can incorporate it into my daily vocabularity, the paranoia of bad spelling but doing it anyway and the true pleasure of reading buckdoff, la mexicana, crazy3dayer, 2manyminis and the rest of the gang, especailly when they take on a troll. Here's to you and I have a feeling it is only the beginning.

CutNJump said...

I have an idea for all of us for Monday. It will help with the withdrawls, I swear!

It will also be fun, entertaining and it will be done on the message board, so if you aren't signed up over there yet, give it a shot over the weekend.

Whistlin Dixie said...

Happy anniversary, FHOTD, and many congrats on your worldwide reach. I think that you have had a REAL impact on this industry, and that's something you should be incredibly proud of. Thanks for the education, snark, jaw-dropping revelations, and so much more. Here's to keepin' it real :)

cdncowgirl said...

This blog is an emotional rollercoaster... from the heartwrenching details of some of the horses posted, to the victory of rescued/rehabed horses, to the anger at the stupidity of humanity, to the humour shared by fellow bloggers (Cutnjump and Karen V pop to mind immediately).

Happy Anniversary Fugly, and thanks for all the time you spend entertaining/educating us.

Sassy said...

I love your blog -- I'm totally hooked. More and more the horse world is beginning to remind me of the dog and cat world! There are too many unwanted dogs, cats and horses. Why do people breed? I just don't get it.

People need to stop breeding horses, period. With the numbers of horses that are alive right now, there is no good reason keep breeding.

I hope you continue your blog for many, many years so we can all be reminded of this issue and share the message with others.

Happy Anniversary!

cloudyandcallie said...

gorgeous rehab of the mare. what a good looking horse. and think of how many don't get this chance. kinda like rising from the dead. thanks for giving us all the pix and info, good and bad. I just discovered you thru a friend, so I thought you had been blogging for years. I didn't take pix of my mare when I bought her and she was skinny, but she became beautiful with wormer and feed and hay. so many of them look awful and then just bloom. keep up the good work.

Crunchberry's mom said...

congrats on 1 year, FHOTD! i truly believe this is making a difference to many in the horseworld. keep up the great work!

Karen said...

Remember Little Cliff? Here's a letter that his former owners sent to the Thoroughbred Times (an extremely popular racing publication). Thought it was interesting.
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"Previous owner responds to Little Cliff’s rescue

Writing on behalf of LA Buzz, of which I am a partner, I would like to present to the readership of the Thoroughbred Times the facts as we know them to be concerning the time between Little Cliff’s last race, his subsequent rescue from a direct-to-kill pen and the furor that has helped create amongst those following this story.

Up until the time that the first article was published online in mid April, my partner and I believed that Little Cliff had been taken to a farm. Little Cliff had earned second money of $3,200 in his prior race for us, but got injured in the subsequent race and had to be vanned off the racetrack after the finish of his race.

After the trainer, Ramon Preciado, confirmed that Little Cliff would never race again, my partner contacted the general manager of the farm where he was bred to inquire if we could retire him there. Unfortunately, they were unable to assist. Thereupon, the trainer told us he would see to it that Little Cliff would get a good home, and indeed told us that he had a contact that had a local farm where we could visit him.

We had only good experiences with Ramon to that point, and had no reason to question his judgment or sincerity. The horse was released to Ramon, as our agent, solely to be retired, and we received no compensation, nor gave him any consent to receive any himself. What happened to him from the time he left the track to when he was found by the rescue people remains unknown to us, despite our many efforts to find out.

After Little Cliff left the track, Ramon told us about a sticker that was in with his foal papers. Upon inspection of the papers, we discovered a half-inch-square white paste-on sticker with ReRun’s phone number. Though we knew that Nick Zito had trained Little Cliff for the majority of his career, we had no idea of the extent of the involvement Kim Zito had with horse rescue, and had no way of knowing that she wanted to be contacted.

Partly because of what happened with Little Cliff, and partly because it was already in its formative stage already, the Pennsylvania Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association has begun an initiative to provide trainers with a place … to retire horses no longer able to race and in need of a home. Hopefully, the project will be successful in obtaining adequate financing and optimal results for the horse population at Philadelphia Park, so that what Little Cliff had to face does not happen again. LA Buzz is doing what it can to help.

LA Buzz indeed appreciates the efforts made by Another Chance For Horses on behalf of Little Cliff and the many other horses they have saved, and the efforts of all other horse rescue organizations. We also strongly condemn all horse slaughter and across the border horse transport for slaughter.

Contributions or assistance in providing homes should contact Turning For Home, in care of PTHA, P.O. Box 300, Bensalem, PA. 19020 or contact Barbara Luna of the HBPA office at Philadelphia Park

Respectfully submitted,

Robert Levin & Sheila Austrach
LA Buzz"

MyTwoPonies said...

Fugly- I won't be able to get through to you via email on time and I know your read the comments faster.

"The Happy horse" trainer in Enumclaw was just killed in a horse accident. The surly, old, kind, wisp of an Irishman rehab trainer passed away at the Harborview Trauma center on Tuesday, survived by his wife and family in BC. His passing is a huge loss to our community for the unbreakable, unmanageable, last-chance horses.

I am trying to get a list of the horses they had left. If they were not worth saving, he would not have been on them. The remainder of their horses will be sent to the Enumclaw auction on Sunday.

Prospects for TB's and problem WB's are not good.

If you or anyone can help- please email me. We basically have tomorrow and that's it.

bigpainthorse said...

Congratulations on a great year, Fugly!

You probably won't ever know how many people this blog has influenced ... I know of at least two people who, after I very quietly referred them to this blog, decided that perhaps it was NOT "a great idea" to breed their very nice, fugly, sweet, old, partially lame grade mares "just to experience having a baby around." (If I'd followed my first instinct and told them if they wanted to experience having a baby around they should breed THEMSELVES and leave their horses alone, I doubt the response would have been as positive, if you see what I mean ...)

Congrats again, and many more.

BuckdOff said...

cutnjump & all, see you on the message board Monday, I'll probably need the weekend to figure it out.

serensk said...

Happy Anniversary to the Fug Blog!

I discovered this blog when researching about horse purchasing (no my prospective purchases weren't featured). It was the end-of-2007 recap post, with poor Miss Camel, that captivated me. And it's been a daily routine ever since.

Thank you for the education you have given this neophyte horse owner. While I may not always agree with everything that's been said, the matter-of-fact and upfront way of saying things has been refreshing. And, it has given me direction on what areas I need to learn more about.

Thank you, too, for giving us the inspiration to try our hand at "auction rescues" and while my bank account doesn't appreciate it, I'm sure my baby girl River appreciates not being a sandwich.

SkyHigh said...

Fugly:

I respect you, you know that. But what is the difference between slaughtering a cow or killing a chicken and slughtering a horse? Granted, I don't think I'd ever eat horse meat, but why deny the right for the people who want it? I would be like not letting us eat steak and cheeseburgers. I don't agree with inhumane horse slaughter, but I think that slaughter has a place in the world.

Broadwaypony said...

OT:

Hate to rain on the party but...
Saw this on Craigslist when I was on my way out of work.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/grd/701388672.html

Broadwaypony said...

oh wait...it gets better...

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/grd/700697225.html


BUT STILL! Happy Anniversary Fugly!!!

DebiUK said...

Happy Birthday from the UK

Keep up the good work

Windsor said...

Happy Anniversary
I am so glad this blog exists, you have helped so many Horses, by educating people who in turn can educate others about Horses. I also have laughed, cried, got mad etc. like so may others here. Thank you for starting this blog and many many more Anniversaries.

horspoor said...

Happy Anniversary FHOTD!!

I can't believe it's only a year. I'm addicted, and I've passed the addiction on to friends. One of my students, the first time she saw Fugly....spent the day reading everything from day one. She's way addicted. Wasn't so good for her during finals. Hopefully it doesn't affect her GPA. lol

ariemay said...

Skyhigh (you smoking the devil's lettuce?)

How many cows or chickens are raised to trust humans to the extent that horses (and dogs & cats) are? "pets" are not the same as cattle IMHO

It's a bit unfair to reward these creatures with inhumane slaughter.

ALSO: the facilities in the US, Canada AND Mexico are all designed for cattle, not an animal built like a horse (longer neck) and therefore many times it takes more than once with the bolt in Canada/US to kill the horse. Sometimes they are just paralized and are then hung and bled alive. In Mexico some places use knives at the base of their necks to paralize them so they can bleed out while still alive.

Research (if you have the stomach) what happens to our loyal friends in these places.

Holy fucking shit - after writing this I need a doobie and a shot.

Windsor said...

Skyhigh
Cattle has shorter necks than Horses and the captive bolt can be placed to ensure a quick death, they can not swing their heads like a Horse can. Cattle usually is not your pampered companion that carries you over jumps, gives you a pleasurable outing on his back or teaches your children to ride. The livestock animals are usually bred for human consumption, our Horses are not. Can you imagine the public outrage if someone were to slaughter his/her dog or cat because they simply no longer want it, it pooped in the house etc. These are companion animals as are our beloved Horses. They often gave so much to us, they do deserve a much better end.

colorisnteverything said...

Happy Anniversary!

I made you something! haha

No horses were harmed in the making of this. That is the baby at 18 months with an old show picture of me photoshopped in.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/missrightwing/WedontNeedNoSnaffles.gif

CutNJump said...

Ariemay- No fair teasing the rest of us like that! Especially those of us who cannot partake.

Breeze Web Services said...

Happy Anniversary indeed.

I am a fairly new "Fugly" fan and look forward to your blogs each day. I feel they are important and educational.

This site inspired me to start my own blog on effective equine marketing.

It has inspired our business to donate time to develop a new website for our local rescue organization. We are excited to start this project in the next week or so. Stay tuned.

Finally, this blog has inspired me to speak up and voice my opinion.

Thank you.

Lindsey Millar
Breeze Web Services
Effective Equine Web Design

green_knight said...

Happy Anniversary. You're making a lot of people *think*, which is a fantastic achievement.

And to see how efforts are coordinated to save horses is very, very gratifying indeed.

BarnHag said...

Happy Anniversary Fugly!

I only jumped on board last August when I discovered FHOTD.

BUT since then . . .
- When my computer broke I went to a friends house to read the blog (pretending I was researching something).
- While on a cruise last fall I paid the exhorbitant internet access fees so as not to miss anything.
- I used the business center at several hotels while attending work conventions to keep up with the blog(thereby preventing people who were ACTUALLY trying to work from using them).

It is fair to say that I am hooked. Thank you for this wonderful addiction. And I offer you my favorite Irish toast in honor of your anniversary:

"May you be buried in a casket made from a 100 year old oak tree . . . that I shall plant tomorrow"!

TornadoBaby said...

Skyhigh-

As Fugly has stated before, it's not that our majority stance is against slaughter; we recognize that it's an unfortunate mediation. HOWEVER... our problem is that it is done inhumanely (square peg in round hole) and many people have no or little regard or responsibility in either preventing their breeding results from getting to a slaughterhouse, or they just seem to pump out babies that have no future and go to horrible deaths.

Horse slaughter may be a necessary evil, but it could be done in a MUCH better and humane fashion; that's where our main beef lies. Hope that clarifies some things!

sassysmom said...

OMG - I was totally looking forward to a day without getting po'd about some poor starving horse or BYB or pro slaughter freak and just the opposite happened. I got this pro slaughter email then got another email about a 2 year old untouched but well bred colt who couldnt be sold because of the byb horses( of course it wasnt because he was untouched right) and how rescue horses are all crazy and no more slaughter will put the good breeders out of business . GEEZ
so glad the blog is still up nice to hear some normal people

oh_for_crying_out_loud said...

Happy Anniversary!

Dang you, Fugly Horse Of The Day!

Yer makin it so us reg'lar folks cain't even advermatize our studs and 50 foals a year fer fear we make it on yer blog.

DANG YOU!

keep up the good work, fugs. You know you've done good. ;)

lovemyottb said...

Happy anniversary from AUSTRALIA

What a ride it has been. Congratulations.

Here's to the next year. (lifts drink):)

Heat Stroke in FL said...

Wow, that beautiful horse at the end sure made a huge recovery!

Happy 1st :-D

http://www.outofshaperider.blogspot.com

eponasprite said...

Happy Birthday from Australia #2!

Reading your blog and the well informed comments has been an education. (The ill informed comments....not so much.)

Thank you for euthanizing my yearning to Breed The Perfect Foal.

sassysmom said...

What do you say to these types of emails-- I am running out of patience--

From: "Stephenie" stephenie@SHASTA.COMAdd sender to Contacts To: ETALK@NORCALEQUEST.COMNot to rain on anyone’s parade out there. However outlawing slaughtering is creating a huge problem. There are people out there starving their horses and worse yet people just letting them go to survive on their own since they have outlawed slaughter houses. Outlawing slaughter houses does not cure irresponsible people. By solving one problem (slaughter house closing) they have created a whole new set of problems. I have had to only put one horse down in my life (it was when I was a teenager) and it was to a slaughter house. My horse had no quality of life left. It was the most humane thing my parents could do. It was recommended by the veterinarian. Mind you that this horse I had to put down was my favorite horse when growing up. He and I fit like a hand in a glove. It was the hardest thing I had to do. I put it off way to long as it was, I was holding on because I loved him too much. I was actually hurting him; thankfully my parents were able to get through to me. It was his time he was old and was not recovering very well from a broken bone in pastern.



I have a mare that is over 20 now, and when it is her time I will be able to bury her on our ranch, she will have a headstone just like our dogs.



It is a fact horses are starving over this, so I would rather them be put down at a slaughter house than to have them starve to death.

sassysmom said...

love the part about the slaughterhouse being the most humane end to her horse. sheesh

plastiqueponi said...

"There are 3 types of people:
*The ones that learn by reading
*The few who learn by observation
*The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence"

Or be the dumb cluck who tried to pour water into the trough by pouring it EVER the electric fence...

OH. MY. GAWD.

Didn't try THAT trick a second time... lol!

TexasMissy said...

Happy Anniversary and hopefully many more to come! Thanks so much for teaching confomation and compassion. Well done!

Emily Katherine <3 said...

Fugly,
You've changed how I view horses, conformation, amongst other tihngs.
We're made a huge impact in a year.
Let's keep it going for many more.
Happy Anniversary, guys!!!

boobookitty said...

Keep up the good work & please continue to show both sides of the fence. Most folks let their emotions rule their thoughts without ever knowing the "Real Truth". By the way, if wood is put on an electric fence in 2 seperate places the electricity will not go thru that area. i learned that the hard way.

Liz S said...

Happy anniversary!! Wow amazing its only been a year!

Heres a goodie to go with the trailering horrors from a few days ago http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/700604523.html

"we haved hauled cow, horses, pigs , goats, dogs and kids in this great rack...slides in and out with little ease" Pigs, goats, dogs sure why not....horses and kids??? Aaaand sure enough that last pic is of it falling out. oy!

robyn said...

Funny how the first blog had only 8 comments...how much FHOTD has grown--hurray for Fugs! Enjoy your time off. :)

And kudos to the person who made the tribute video--very appropriate music too:

"all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you"

eponasprite said...

Sassysmom; There is no cure for the Stepheniesque. She cannot see the self-contradictions in what she writes and would not recognise a non sequitur (sp?) if it had 18 wheels & ran over her.

Thanks again for this blog & the contributors who made me laugh/think/forget about the "Dream Foal"

Karen V said...

CutNJump - Ditto and me too! (To most of what you said...) I've been aghasted by MY OWN stupidity/ignorance at times. Time for me to "get on and ride!"

Happy Anniversary and a hearty THANK YOU! Hope you enjoy your time off!

austriancurls said...

Congrats Fugs. Here's popping a Champagne bottle to you...passing the glasses about..."Cheers!"

From a niche colour breeder of fugly horses....

muahahaha.

austriancurls said...

Wierd sense of humor...I know *sigh*

Kristy said...

happy anniversary Fugly! and happy birthday to me, too (i'm kind of honored that we have the same birthday)

luvmyfuglyhorse said...

Happy Anniversary, Cathy - and a huge thank you for opening my eyes, my ears, and my heart. I have learned so much from this blog.

I think a round of applause is also due to the many fine people who read and post here as well. Sure we get the occasional troll, asshat, dipstick, etc, but the good ones - the faithful FOF (Friends of Fugly)- outweigh and outwit them by a longshot!

Notice that Fugs did not do a bunch of advertising, spamming, link-exchanging, or other methods to bring readers to this site. It's pretty much been word of mouth. The popularity is a result of repeated visits and referrals.

So YAY to the FOF too! (not to take the spot light here, but I am sure Fugs would agree.)

Gecko said...

Wow, 9 comments in your first post! I don't think I've ever got 9 comments in one day! Haha!!

Equine Art Works said...

Congrats Fugly! Thanks for all you do!

DC_Dressage said...

Great blog.

Off the subject, but there is a posting on the DC Craigslist for what sounds like a nice home for a rescue. I'm new to the area so not sure who is doing rescue nearby; anyone able to pass this on?

(Note the very important 'ok if she can't be bred' ;-))

--------------

Perfect HORSE... Wanted
Reply to: sale-697298556@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-05-27, 5:26PM EDT


Hello all,

I'm looking for a guest/kids horse to trail ride. Must be a mare, ok if she can't be bred, I just like mares. No more than 15 hands, Must be well broke,bombproof ,cross water without a care, get along well with others horses, etc. AS the headline said....perfect horse. Wish me luck. I can provide an excellent home with references from my vet if needed.

Thanks for reading




* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


PostingID: 697298556

TBsplease said...

the colonel (and any other UK Fuglies) - you can add your email address on your profile. I did that and haven't been flamed yet. Not that I'm lonely without FHOTD, mind, just would love to know where like-minded folks are around the UK.

Windsor said...

OT
I contacted the Fl Rescue that has all the skinny Arabians, some of our volunteers have made donations to them to help out. Here is the response and update about the skinny little old mare that made me cry:
Thank you for helping to spread the word about our rescue horses which need help. And we do appreciate any donations. We currently need to have the vet take care of some dental problems with several of these horses as well as vaccinate them. They had not been vaccinated, wormed or trimmed in years. The older mare, Madaha will need dental care and a caslik procedure due to a sunken vulva which contributes to a uterine infection she is currently fighting.
If you ever hear of a horse that needs help and your organization is not able to take it in due to distance, being filled to capacity or any other reason, please contact me and I will help.
Thank you again for your encouragement, and for being a volunteer in your organization. People like you make it possible to continue to help these wonderful animals.
Sincerely,
Melanie Higdon
Hidden Springs Horse Rescue

http://www.floridahorserescue.com/

TBsplease said...

liz s - "Aaaand sure enough that last pic is of it falling out. oy!"

And I don't care if you can put boards in it and it makes a great place to sleep. Nightmarish! Can you imagine him saying, "Yep, the most horses we put in there over 30 years was 6 of 'em." Bet it conducts electricity real good too.

That is not the kind of RACK I want.

SweetPea said...

Happy, happy, happy anniversary Fugs!! You are my new version of Crack Cocaine (lmao). Happily for me, I'm heading out to do some horse camping so I will survive without you for the weekend :)

OT - For anyone in Eastern Idaho (I know, I know... BFE) I am trying to locate homes for some papered FoxTrotters. They are free, but I've convinced the owner NOT to advertise that fact until I can find homes for these horses.

Victim #1 - Grey, slightly blind in the L eye. Around 16 years old. I hopped on this guy and rode him around the pasture... nice mover, but slightly lame in the front. Would be great for light use, trail riding.

Victim #2 - Chestnut, and the most unfortunately put together horse I've ever seen. He's not a beauty queen, but he's sweet and would be good for light use.

Email me @ sweetpea@europa.com if you're interested.

Appybutt said...

eponasprite said...

"Thanks again for this blog & the contributors who made me laugh/think/forget about the "Dream Foal"

I agree! I used to wish that I'd bred my mare (she's an 18 year old maiden, so never going to now), but after reading your blog, I'm glad I didn't.

Yeah, she's got papers (one of those iffier registries), her conformation is pretty good, and I love her to death, but if I couldn't take care of the foal, I don't know who else would have wanted it.

But she's also pony height despite being a horse (breed-wise), has a nasty temper, and hasn't done anything of merit in the show ring. Sure she's saved my ass countless times out on the trail, but you don't win points for those that you can show off to other people.

Not to mention that when I wanted to breed her I was a teenager with zero experience handling and starting a baby.

How many red flags was that? Three? Four?

Anyway, rambling on, but you've convinced me to look to rescues and auctions for my next project when it's time for me to say good-bye (humanly with vet assistance) to my wonderful horse.

I see spots said...

Coming out of lurkerdom to wish you all the best Fugly!

Sarah said...

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Sarah said...

I really appreciate this site! I started learning about animal rescue when I got my first cats. fuglyhorseoftheday has helped me think through my discomfort with the "don't breed or buy when shelter pets die" ultimatum when it's leveled against breeders who care about health, happiness, and the cat equivalent of conformation, while still loving rescue (and my very own flugovly rescued cats).

And I've learned a lot about horses too, including some individual horses I'll never forget. Thanks so much!

Jen said...

You know, in most cases it's not a case of it being a fugly horse but a fugly human..

bhm said...

Fugs,
Happy Anniversary from me and giant, shire size hugs and slobbery kisses from my horse. Thanks everyone for making a difference for our equine friends.

green_knight said...

TBsPlease:

I've created http://community.livejournal.com/fuglies_uk/ as a forum where I hope UK folk will say a brief hello so that we can hopefully organise things as well as the American readers do - but I'm feeling mighty lonesome!

(You don't need a livejournal account... but it helps.)

mysanity said...

Congrats on the Best Blog Ever!! Very educational. I'll have to try to get through the agony of no new posts til Tues. As for the board, I have too much trouble signing on. Will try again!

Oh, and somebody mentioned the Camel!! We had a bad forest fire in No Cal and they were showing a clip on the news of evacuating the horses and I SWEAR I saw the Camel!!! How could you confuse that mare with anything!

Enjoy your vacation!!

Aimee said...

Happy Anniversary Fugs!!

Thanks for hours of entertainment and educational reading.

Looking forward to another year.

:o)

bhbulldogs said...

Awesome Blog.

Great information.

I love Fugly!

Cindyg said...

OK, in the video -- what do we hate about the person leading her horse through the "car wash"? Was there more to that story? From the shot, the horse didn't look unhealthy or unsafe. What did that person do to get into the video tribute?

North Pole said...

Happy Anniversary Fugly!

So very glad that there is a place to "share" with like minded and passionate people. Enjoy the time off!

North Pole, Alaska

luvmyfuglyhorse said...

cindyg- I am guessing that "car wash" picture is depicting yet another useless Parelli "trick." I could be wrong, but since Fugly and a large portion (not all) of the readers/posters on this blog are not exactly Parelli fans, that is why it is included here.

sunbake said...

OT - Broadwaypony - are there any photos of said horse? I didn't see any on the craigslist post. This sounds really weird to me.

Back OT - congratulations Fugly on creating a wonderful, informative place where horse lovers can meet to exchange information and really try to educate people about the overpopulation of unwanted horses and the causes behind it (no training, no confirmation, etc...)

Just wanted to let everyone know that I just had the best day - got to ride a couple of rescue ponies my trainer has taken in... one is about 13 hands and the other is a great 14.2 hand mare about 18 YO that is so sweet. She's already added about 150 lbs. in the 3 months she's been at the barn. She was part of a herd liquidation from Camp Pen. I think I've missed my calling in life! Oh, I'm only about 5'0" tall so I'm not oversized for them. Anyway... thank goodness for people like Fugly and other trainers and horse people who do what they can to take care of the unwanted horses/ponies of the world.

Fugly - have a great birthday and a great vacation!!!!!

Cowgirl22 said...

Congrats! I'm a new blogger and i love your blog!! I want to know what to look for in a horse when trying to buy one?! Thanks! Your awesome!

Cindyg said...

[cindyg- I am guessing that "car wash" picture is depicting yet another useless Parelli "trick."]

Well, I was at a show last week that had that exact same obstacle in a trail class. So preparing for it at home doesn't seem so stupid to me. Not nearly stupid enough to find it featured on Fugly. Scratching my head. ??

(But thanks for explaining.)

allthefuglypeople said...

Huge congratulations Fugs!
I don't remember exactly when I started reading this blog, but the amount I have learnt in that space of time has been unbelievable. Your direct honesty is a wonderful change to the 'sunshine and rainbows' attitude of many horse forums. Enjoy your time off, and here's to another year of well deserved snark.

Charlie said...

Happy Anniversary, Cathy! I am a newbie to your blog. Thanks for helping me learn so much about the crazy horse world. I volunteered for CANTER recently and have adopted an OTTB, sound and now in training. I'm still a beginner rider, but I was able to start taking lessons on him after he was off the track for only 5 months. He's the kindest, greatest horse! Thanks for the kudos to CANTER and the OTTBs. They're "the fastest friend you'll ever love"!

Thanks also for the incredible amount of time and effort you put into this blog. All I can say is WoW!

Mary said...

OT - Sorta, this just popped up in my email.

FREE CUTE TB GELDING IN ILLINOIS!!

http://www.centralillinoisequestriancenter.com/SalePage.html

Looks like he needs some groceries and someone to stop wrenching on his cute little mouth.

Jaxom said...

Warning for mary's posted link above! Really, really annoying page sound effects! I couldn't even read the page until I turned the sound off. Why would anyone think that racket is going to help sell horses?

June Evers said...

Happy Anniversary Fugs! Keep on truckin'!

SkyHigh said...

To all who replyed to my comment:

"I don't agree with inhumane horse slaughter, but I think that slaughter has a place in the world."

That is right in my post. I know that the bolt is inhumane, and I don't condone it. However, humane slaughter is/would be different. If you have to put your horse asleep, what is the difference between that, and humanely slaughtering it to "feed" someone?

charlienchico said...

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY FUGS!!

I've been hooked- I usually can't make it through all of the comments or I would NEVER get anything done.

Tried to pour a (heavier than I thought) can of feed over the top of the electric fence yesterday- yep, fence is still working- not a pretty picture.

Read the toast "Here's to another year of Fuglys" and my first thought was wouldn't it be fantastic if Fugly ran out of stuff to post? Sadly, I think we'll all still be here.

Enjoy the ride folks!

Charlie

katertott said...

I'm sure some have already read this but there was an article on CNN that TIME did. I think whoever wrote this has a bias towards slaughter though since nowhere is mentioned that you can euthanize your horse instead of having it starve or ship to slaughter. A guy that they interviewed who stated that anyone who supported the ban on horse slaughter should have a bunch of old starving horses in their backyard. Ummm no, you can peacefully euthanize your horse BUT conveniently this same man was a livestock transporter who has shipped horses to slaughter in Canada (he claims he no longer does due to gas prices). Of course if people did euthanize there would be less horses for him to transport and hence less money to make so heaven forbid you mention a peaceful humane alternative. Of course uninformed people are going to see this article and think the end of slaughter is the reason horses are starving on the side of the road.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1809950,00.html?cnn=yes

Windsor said...

Finally a Troll on here a Skihigh one at that. Wonder what he is so skyhigh on?

cattypex said...

heh... maybe Pro Slaughter Girl is confusing euthanizing horse at home, call the truck, body to rendering plant with ... horses sold, dbl decker to Mexico?

Karen V said...

Anyone else having withdrawals?

The Colonel said...

Green_knight I've tried to create a livejournal account but I keep getting the message 'bad password', must be some sort of bug.

Tbsplease thanks for the info, I've added my email address to my profile. It's one I use for 'public consumption' so people can flame away if they so wish!

BuckdOff said...

I am definitely going through withdrawal, I can't figure out the message board so I've been on TB friends, Training the VLC, Zappos, and Dover Saddlery...If I attempt to talk about horses with my husband, his eyes glaze over and he jumps on his tractor, So Karen V, believe me, you aren't the only one.

Skint said...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1809950,00.html
Happy anniversary FHOTD!
Hi everyone,
if you cut and paste this into your browser, here is an article which may be of interest.

I've only scanned it quickly,not sure I agree with the views expressed regarding slaughter as some kind of "solution" but may have mis-read it.

TBsplease said...

I am definitely having withdrawal symptoms. I've looked at Scarlet's recovery page so many times I've memorised it...

The Colonel - thank you for posting your public email. I shall send one to you forthwith.

Green Knight - have registered and posted on your UK Fugly site. Now I know that skint and at least one other poster is from the UK here... who was it from Wiltshire?

I am currently in contact with a rescue near Uxbridge, but the woman doesn't have email (ugh). Must get out there and see what's what. The thing is, and this is awful, the nice rescue lady (whom I don't know) looks a bit like the CBER lady who photoshopped her ass. BAD association, no pun intended. And I must NOT judge on appearance. That is just small-minded, I know...

TBsplease said...

mary - cripes, that site neighs like a horse being tormented and you can't shut it off!

http://www.centralillinoisequestriancenter.com/SalePage.html

Broadwaypony said...

Sunbaked - For the stolen horse? No there were no pictures, which is why I'm a little uneasy about the posting. Not to mention that I dont think craigslist.com is the place to air out all that personal info.

BuckdOff said...

I don't think skyhigh is a troll, just a pro-slaughter person who is lost....on the Fugly horse website..slaughter is slaughter, no one is making it humane at this time..when mother horses and their foals are going straight to slaughter, it is a sin in my eyes..a gigantic waste, stop breeding...

TBsplease said...

buckdoff - Amen! Death is different from slaughter for sure. Euthanising can and should be humane, slaughter not as it stands, if ever.

djl said...

Is it Tuesday yet?

djl said...

Ahh I see someone linked the Time article.

Some Asshats on the Arabian Breeders Network are saying that we must have slaughter beack in the US.

Clearly in one part of the article they say "wow we have a lot of old horses that would have gone to slaugther"

I pointed out the right thing to do for the old horses is to put them down....

Silly me.

Is it Tuesday Yet?
Why is Fugs on vacation?
Who allowed this.

BuckdOff said...

Of course,some of the Arabian breeders, and we ALL remember one in particular, routinely sent their culls straight to slaughter, making quick bucks by bypassing auctions and the middleman. I think some of you remember our heated discussion with the woman. I believe she referred to her horses as cherished family members or some other sorry-ass expression. Do you pack your family on a double decker headed for a certain death in Canada? Nope, I don't.. Of course, I'm not a person of QUALITY, raising Arabians, either, so I could never understand......Only a couple more days 'til another blog, Thank Goodness...

djl said...

Wow,
The folks on the Arabian Breeder Network show their true colors.

FUGLY should out them.
People you DO NOT Want to ever sell a horse to.

Here are two comments
--------------
I got the point! The economy is bad, people are losing jobs. I live close to Janesville, WI. Where GM (750 employees affected) has just closed a whole shift, and due to them closing a shift. Gilmore (180 employees affected), another good paying job is closing.
I guess for the people losing their jobs coming up with the Vet bill to get rid of a horse is pretty hard, and if they can get a few extra dollars to help the family out, well that is their choice!
I would rather end a life that way, than to have them slowly starve.
They do eat dog in other countries.

----------------------
First off this is not the first article I or many other members on this board have read regarding the overpopulation problem affecting horses or any other domesticated animal. You can't turn around without hearing about people dropping horses off at state parks, starved horses being seized and various other horror stories. I did not miss any point. My horses will die with me a quiet death feeling loved and having been cared for and God forbid if I can not care for them I will do my best to find them homes that can. But if worst came to worst, I would much rather have them die quickly at slaughter then slowly starving. We cannot regulate people who breed anything with a uterus, we cannot regulate whether or not a stallion remains intact. What we as voters can control is regulation so that horses travel to slaughter humanely and are put down in the same manner. The sooner people who pushed for the closing of the plants realize this and open thier eyes the better. Putting a horse down can be expensive and then there are regulations on how you can and cannot dispose of the body which can also be expensive for people who are already strapped.

thatQHgirl said...

Is it sad that I keep checking this blog daily just to see if Fugs came home from vacation early?

I can't be the only one doing this...

SkyHigh said...

Windsor: I'd like to know how having my own opinion makes me a troll? I am just a high schooler who speaks out about what I believe in.

Cattypex- Yeah, I guess you a correct. I hadn't ever known that it was an option to humanely euthanize, then send to be rendered. Can meat (for humans) be made out of the horse, even though the euthanizing agent is in the body? I apoligize for my ignorance about that fact, and I thank YOU for not being a complete asshat towards me.

Buckdoff- The fact that I am pro-slaughter makes me "lost" on Fugly's blog? HA! Whatever.

Thatqhgirl: Me too. I've checked it several times today.

And to all who have made snarky comments about my name, Skyhigh, save it. It refers to my current outlook on my life and religion. Check my blog if you don't believe me.

Maria said...

I think there are other agents we routinely use such as dewormers and performance enhancers that are also not supposed to be used in animals meant for human consumption. I see very little difference between that and the euthanizing agent.

I am totally against slaughter period. You take this life on as your responsibility and one of your responsibilities, possibly the most important one, is to ensure a good end to good life. If you're so hard up that you're gonna need the profit of 60 bucks or so after fees and such, you have no business owing a horse or any other living breathing animal that might rack up a vet bill. If you're not that hard up, then why not pay the few hundred bucks to make sure your friend has a loving end surrounded by the people who cared for him? To me it really is as simple as that.

Appybutt said...

Maria said...

"I think there are other agents we routinely use such as dewormers and performance enhancers that are also not supposed to be used in animals meant for human consumption. I see very little difference between that and the euthanizing agent."

The biggest difference between things like dewormer and the euth drugs are the concentrations in the body. Dewormer goes into the GI tract and kills the worms in there, it doesn't (much) enter the body proper and get into the blood stream. When you euth a horse, the acting chemicals circulate in the blood, contaminating everything the blood circulates to (read: all body tissues).

That's why you CANNOT consume meat from a euthed horse, bu you're probably fine eating meat from one that was simply dewormed. (Not that I advocate this, just explaining the science).

Skyhigh: By choosing that name you have opened yourself up for snarkiness. If it means something good to you, that's great, but if you fail to see how some would interpret it, this is an excellent eye-opener.

Evergrey said...

Can anyone save this California horse?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/grd/703577766.html

"Don't reply to lecture me on the ethics of this decision. I've contacted a bunch of horse rescue operations and have had no luck. Also, horse slaughter is illegal in California and I don't need to hear from you about the dangers of adopting him out to someone who will sell him for meat ... there's no market for horse meat ... unless someone is going to put him in their own freezer (yuck) and I have no way to control that possibility."

Grr.

BarnHag said...

(thatQHgirl)
No dear, you are NOT the only one doing it . . .sigh.

Aimee said...

QUOTE "thatQHgirl"
Is it sad that I keep checking this blog daily just to see if Fugs came home from vacation early?

I can't be the only one doing this... UNQUOTE


Sadly 'thatQHgirl' your not the only one!

TBsplease said...

No, we're not alone in our checking. Suffice to say Tuesday is tomorrow. Meanwhile, chatting amongst ourselves doesn't hurt... And it did give me the chance to read through all the year's previous blogs and posts. Aghasted at the state of BYB in general, and even more aghasted at the thought that a recession means more horses in danger than before. Driving out on the M40, there was a group of mares and foals - every one of them fairly fuglicious as seen from a speeding car. Let's hope the little ones were bred for a reason and a purpose by responsible people.

charlienchico said...

OK CNJ, It's Monday........
Need a fix........
What's the plan?

JK- well a little- I've never commented on the boards so it may be hard for me to figure it all out.

green_knight said...

Skyhigh:
the problem is that meat from well-cared-for horses is unsuitable for human consumption. These horses will have gotten chemical wormers (long waiting times, longer than the reccommended intervals between wormings), and they will have gotten bute - and once a horse has gotten bute *at any point in his life* european regulations state that he MUST NOT be slaughtered for human consumption.

Furthermore, most of the horses that are sent to slaughter are not the well-muscled, healthy types that will give you a good steak; they will produce suboptimal meat that gourmets would not touch; and there exists no demand for lots of inferior meat, least alone stressed meat that *never* makes good eating, whatever animal it comes from.

Which leaves horse meat for dog/catfood or the occasional zoo; and there is absolutely no reason why such animals should not be slaughtered locally - within two hours of their location - and rendered from there.

I am not against slaughter per se. Not everybody can bury their horse in their backyard; it's not practical. What I am against is the inhumane treatment of horses that goes on before they are killed - being thrown into small pens with strange animals, being transported under inhumane conditions for long hours without rest, food, and water. No horse should spend the last days of his life under those conditions. Reopening US slaughter houses will stop transports to Mexico and Canada - but the US is a big, big country, and there's nothing intrinsically better about twenty hours on the road within the US than twenty hours and crossing a border.

TBsplease said...

green_knight - Eloquently said! Hear hear!

TBsplease said...

Just to back up the bute comment from green_knight:

http://www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/prohibited-drugs.php

BuckdOff said...

skyhigh, so you are a high school student, you are not the only one here on this blog. A little education isn't a bad thing, I'm not being disrespectful here, just research the topic before you jump on this blog with your pro-slaughter views. Slaughter is not humane, at this time, no where near it. Sounds to me that you are just echoing a point of view you were raised with, but WHATEVER...One more day, I can read the message board, but can not figure it out so, today I scrape more paint and plant more flowers...

BuckdOff said...

Evergrey,I think you are doing a great job, Even if you can not get them to fully understand the danger of giveaways, or seriously under priced horses, you are making them THINK.. I read Joe's column at TB friends the other day, the KBs are fighting among themselves over horses now, they can make so much money shipping the horses out of the country, apparently two of them almost had a fist fight at an auction there. These guys are awful, any horse we save from them is a small victory, as far as I'm concerned, so thanks, Evergrey...

The Colonel said...

green-knight well said!

cattypex said...

Well, if we want to get down to the nitty-gritty of horse parts, if you have your horse humanely euthanized & hauled off to the local rendering plant, they can use the hides for leather (I think horsehide is standard for US military bomber jacket specs), bones & hooves for various applications, main/tail hair for other stuff.... it's not just the meat that's usable.

But sending your old friend to a slaughter auction is NOT the only way to get rid of it!!! People just don't know, or they want a fast buck..

I'm sure any local large-animal vet could recommend a company for hauling away the body.

I guess that sometimes people just don't know... I'm happy to enlighten them.

cattypex said...

(Aren't there specific Japanese breeds specifically for meat? I seem to remember reading this....)

trixtwh said...

I am eternally grateful for this blog.

It has expanded my "horse horizons" so much more than I could in my finite day-to-day dealings with folks in my small geographical area.

Just fantastic!

cattypex said...

YES! Fugly is my favorite new addiction. It's a great place to vent about asshats, do some real good, and maybe even find a horse (if I were currently in the market).

So glad I accidentally got here!

Broadwaypony said...

cattypex - The japanese are big into racing, so I imagine their meat comes mostly from their cull thoroughbreds.
On the subject of their native breeds (they have eight), they just brought one back from almost near extinction with a very intensive breeding program. It's called a Noma...I've never seen pictures though.
I bet you could google it, I only know about it because I went to Japan a couple years ago.

djl said...

ITS TUESDAY IN AUSTRAILIA!!!!!!!!!!!

djl said...

I think I am now having abandonment issues.........

nccatnip said...

One day left and counting, huh? It looks like Prince and Cricket will be joined by two more "at risk" horses. A 15yo Belgium and a 4 yo Appy. I will refrain from calling them rescues as they are more like upgrades but looking at the pics the Belgium looks pretty thin. To be delivered today to my home, will update the blog as able. This could be very interesting as I have never had a draft but he looks like a sweetheart.
http://ponyrescue.blogspot.com/

CutNJump said...

As promised! It is now up on the Discussion Board, under General Discussion--> Horse Related.

Fuglyisms- The official language of the blog!

This could be a lot of fun and will be helpful to the newcomers who still aren't sure what we are talking about or refering to.

Many people have requested it so it is up and you are all welcome to add to it, make mental notes of some of the words and use them yourself whenever you see fit.

Maybe it will keep us from suffering sever withdrawl symptoms!

austriancurls said...

Noma horse picture here:

http://www.worldofhorses.co.uk/horses_usa/Breeds/horse_breed_Noma_Horse.htm

FrizzyLiz said...

Can't someone call Fugly and tell her it's inhumane to leave us here while she goes on vacation?

Buckdoff: I don't know about you but, I'd pay money AND wager to watch a couple of KB's duke it out. Maybe we could set this up soon? Proceeds go to rescue groups?

Regarding the statement that banning horse slaughter means more cases of horse abuse and neglect?
The answer is... No. In fact, both the Hooved Animal Humane Society (HAHS) and the Illinois Department of Agriculture reported that following the burning of the only slaughter plant in the region, abuse cases quit rising and went down between 2002 and 2003.

California banned horse slaughter in 1998, since that time horse theft has dropped 34% and cruelty reports have not increased (Dr. Carolyn Stull).

Texas, which had the only two slaughter plants in 2003, had among the nations highest rates of cruelty and theft.

The conclusion is clear, slaughter causes abuse and theft! :-)

CutNJump said...

The discussion board is not difficult or scary, as some would think.

Once you go into the board, at the top you can sign up fro a new acount- user name and password, or log in if already signed up.

I am not extremely techno-savy so if I can do it...

djl said...

Free Arab Gelding Othello Wasthington......

Someone help him......

http://wenatchee.craigslist.org/grd/681247938.html

We have a 20 yo arab gelding in need of a new home due to us having too many horses and not enough space. He's free to a nice home, you haul. Located approximately 7 miles south of Othello.

TBsplease said...

djl - Yes it is Tuesday where you are. Darn, you have to wait an extra day! For hyperventilation, blow into a paper bag. It is working for me!

"Sometimes I feel like a motherless child..."

la mexicana said...

Based on the idea that a horse who has ever consumed Bute at any point in its life is not suitable for human consumption in Europe, this would eliminate any OTTB. I've never seen a TB at the track that wasn't consuming Bute, along with an array of other drugs and steriods. So, what is happening to these OTTBs that go to slaughter? Someone is eating them.

A blogger from Australia posted a few weeks ago about slaughter houses in Australia. She/he said horse owners can take their horses to the slaughter house, get paid for the horse, and be with them when they are put down. I think they are shot in the head. The poster said the facilities are clean and humane. I am in favor of a system such as this. It is much of the same way cattle are slaughtered. Seems like a win-win-win situation. The horse is destroyed with out suffering, the owner doesn't have a $500 euthanasia/rendering bill, and the "industry" is satisfied by a horse that can be recycled into a number of different uses.

Instead of fighting slaughter in the U.S.A., maybe we should be working on a compromise.

la mexicana said...

I hear fugs is someplace without a reliable internet connection. I hope she is having a good time and will give us a full report tomorrow!

Did anyone go to the Enumclaw Auction on Sunday?

CutNJump said...

Skyhigh- there are many legitimate reasons, many of us here are so incredibly against slaughter for horses. Many of those reasons carry over for a good number of others here as far as slaughter for chickens, goats, sheep, cows, rabbits, and various other meats that people consume.

Some of those reasons would be how it is done, how the animals are treated at the plants, how they are transported to the plants, how they were kept and treated in holding pens before being crammed into the trucks, how they were treated at the auctions, and mostly how they were treated before even making it TO the auction.

There are so many levels where humans can seriously let down the four legged (and two legged- poultry) animals in their care, long before ditching them at the auction.

Very little time and effort is needed to find out about the whole slaughter process. The info is out there and it takes close to nothing (time and effort) to find it.

Not everyone can bury their animals on their property.

Not everyone views their animals the same as others. (We have named the cows we use for cutting practice...)

Not everyone treats their animals fairly let alone humanely.

Coming on this blog and claiming to be pro-slaughter, needs to have some good reasoning and posibly first hand experience to back up those choices. Without it you will be seriously jumped on for it.

Not everyone will be nice either, as you may have noticed. And claiming youth as your shield to hide behind, does not work here either. There are others here who are near your age, or even younger who often post with intelligent questions and views.

One last thought...

The countries where horsemeat is consumed by humans- they raise horses for consumption purposes. Goody for them. Let them eat their own horses, why do they need ours?

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No need for multi posts, now is there.

Blogger kept giving me server errors, so I didn't know they even went through. I will delete the multi's now...

TBsplease said...

CNJ - I am getting server errors too! What's up with that? Are the kill buyers messing with Google?

djl said...

la mexicana said...
I hear fugs is someplace without a reliable internet connection. I hope she is having a good time and will give us a full report tomorrow
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Hmmmph

I hope she is having a terrible time.

I feel like a kid whos' parents moved and left no forwarding address.

Did we vote on if she was allowed to leave us?

To brighten the ladies day, head to the discussion board, under general horse discussion. Show off your arabians.

I put a calendar pitcure of my stallion up that may feature a hunky shirtless man to distract you til Fugly gets back.

Is it Tuesday yet? I am home sick with nothing to do.

djl said...

Link to board....

http://fhotd64476.yuku.com/topic/5367/master/1/?page=2

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djl said...

TB's yes that is my stallion.

I had suggested the model ONLY wear a helmet...........

ok my bad...

TBsplease said...

djl - Loving them A-rabs! I deleted the comment as I thought I had the wrong stallion. WOW! He's gorgeous. And you know, I didn't even look at the guy first. Hmmm... must have those hormones checked...

A great page of beautiful horses. I feel like I am about 12 years old now, squealing over beautiful horse pictures.

Drsgjunky said...

la mexicana said...
Did anyone go to the Enumclaw Auction on Sunday?
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OT:
From another board I posted on.

My initial findings at the Enumclaw auction:

Many of the same horses back from last time. That's good news in the sense they're still with us. The not so good news, the auction was stuffed with horses, especially colored horses, many with babies. Why people breed horses then take mares/foals to the auction I'll NEVER understand. What's the point? Do these people know what happens to these mares/foals? If not I'd be more than happy to run their fannies (& kids) up to Canada so they can watch the outcome.

I did run across a nice 8yo Holsteiner mare. An Ex H/Jr. This is Extremely rare. A very well cared for mare. Totally out of place for the auction. I can't imagine why this mare was there. Certainly a horse who would make an extremely attractive pasture ornament and possibly a high quality brood mare. I sure hope this horse went home. The folks looking at her weren't my choice of owners.

I wasn't able to stay for the auction itself. There were very few holding pens open. The most number of horses I've ever witnessed.

CutNJump said...

djl- Not so bad at all...

Or maybe not as bad as you think?

djl said...

I added one more photo of my stallion.

So you could see him a little bit in action.

Thanks for the nice comments.

I am looking for my other stallions calendar photo.

If I find it I will post that too.

He made the cover two different years.

Appybutt said...

FrizzyLiz said...

"The conclusion is clear, slaughter causes abuse and theft! :-)"

Technically, you can't say "causes". The correct statement is: "Theft and abuse is highly correlated with proximity to a slaughter plant".

When you're reporting observational statistics, you look for correlations, you can't positively say this causes that. There may be other factors involved.

However, very interesting to note! I'm not surprised about the theft part, but I am about the abuse part. Obviously people would steal horses to sell to the local plant. The abuse though is interesting. Wonder why that is?

Maria said...

"A blogger from Australia posted a few weeks ago about slaughter houses in Australia. She/he said horse owners can take their horses to the slaughter house, get paid for the horse, and be with them when they are put down. I think they are shot in the head. The poster said the facilities are clean and humane. I am in favor of a system such as this. It is much of the same way cattle are slaughtered. Seems like a win-win-win situation. The horse is destroyed with out suffering, the owner doesn't have a $500 euthanasia/rendering bill, and the "industry" is satisfied by a horse that can be recycled into a number of different uses."

Now that I would not be against. It's the terror and inhumane treatment of the process of slaughter the way it's currently handled here that I have problems with, from the sale to the transport to actual deed. Something that is peaceful and minimizes suffering yet still allows the body to be used would be a welcome alternative especially for those who find themselves in suddenly dire financial straits.

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djl said...

How did we get back to the slaughter topic.

I thought I started a great diversion.

Grin

CutNJump said...

djl- You and me both...

I thought the Fuglyisms would be a lot of fun too, and help bring the newbies up to speed...

djl said...

I LOVE the FUGLY-isms

Hideo-zygous is at the top of my list!

Brilliant!

cattypex said...

djl, what a beautiful, elegant stallion!!!

Now, THAT's an Arab.

Oh, the dude was kinda hot, too.

cattypex said...

Hey, it'd be cool to sic the Freakanomics guys on the slaughter/theft/abuse statistics!

cattypex said...

"Hideo-zygous" makes me HAPPY!!!

How can soooo many people know and argue the finer points and genetics of tobiano/overo/tovero/cremello/grulla/dun/bucksin blah blah blah

And be TOTALLY ingorant of conformation?

Reminds me of the "ricer" kids who take their mom's old Civics and tart 'em up with ridiculous spoilers, ground effects, and cheap vinyl graphics...
on a dorky li'l car that will never go over 75mph.

FrizzyLiz said...

As for my comment: The conclusion is clear, slaughter causes abuse and theft! :-)

I was just being assy. Sorry, I do that from time to time. :-)~

I have pondered the fact that when slaughter went away, abuse cases went down and I can't seem to come up with any ideas as to why myself.

I totally agree with maria on the slaughter issue: if it's humane in all aspects, fine. And, if that is the case, for economical reasons, I would hope that the plants are US owned this time around.

dusk9k said...

Hello Everyone.
I have just found FHOTD and after few weeks of lurking, can say that I am glad to find people that have the same attitude as I do as well as the same ideas about horses, horse breeding, responsibility, etc...I have a couple of questions that I am hoping will spark some responses and some learning as well as ideas, suggestions, thoughts...
I show and breed Paints. Beyond the will I/won't I get color--I breed Overos--there is the Lethal White issue (I breed only to non Lethal carrying stallions as my mares carry the Lethal gene) and then there is deafness.
Though the APHA will deny it (I have asked about research and they say there is none AND that there is NO problem, asshats)we have a problem with white pattern deafness, the same as is seen in Australian Shep dogs, Great Danes, white cats, etc... Once you get a deaf foal, you find out that a very high number of Paint horses are deaf. With the right owner/trainer/rider this isn't a real problem and with show horses, can almost be a plus (no need for cotton in those ears!) but it is something that I shy away from...however, with no research out there how do we keep this from happening? And are these horses being trained or are they going to the canners? My first experience with one turned out one of the bad ones. The mare is wicked. She has to be roped to be caught, even in the stall. She bites, kicks and has to be tranqed to be vetted or for the farrier. She has never been mis-handled and is not a stalled horse. We got her broke and she is a futurity money earner (as a Three year old only!) and then before she became mine was bred. She has wonderful, sweet, quiet foals that are proven show horses, but we did have one out of her that was deaf as well. We changed stallions and have had no more deaf foals, but I don't like the idea that she "could" have them. I sold her to a home is a keep her forever and deal with her problems in a safe manner type of home (they are her origanal trainers so they knew what they were getting in for--as well as I see her regularly and know she is safe and well cared for. Still, this is a problem in the Paint horse industry that no one seems to want to acknowledge. What do we do? I can't afford to go around and buy them all up and make sure they don't get bred. I know several people who have them and don't even know it until someone who has had one tells them what is "wrong" with the foal. It pops up out of nowhere, from two hearing parents. I don't think just breeding Tobianos is the answer. With AQHA now registering what should only be Paints, another pet peeve of mine, I can only see the problem getting worse. Any thoughts, ideas, rants, suggestions?

CutNJump said...

Dusk9k- KUDOS!!! for doing right by your horses and for trying to take on the "Good Ole' Boys" network otherwise known as a registry. (Many of them are run this way)

If they were to admit there is a problem, then they may be able to begin treatment. The hardest part is admitting your problem... LOL!

All kidding aside, the APHA may then have to add new regulations regarding the deaf horses. This might take some work on their part, and then they couldn't just sit on their duff and collect fees.

With Boxers the white pups are culled as many of them are born deaf too. They are pet quality only and it is considered a genetic deffect, yet they spring up from time to time.

I knew a lady once who had two grey and white medicine hat paints. Both geldings and one was deaf. She showed him around town and did well with him. She also had him trained to drive, which I imagine would talk a ton of patience and work, but he did well at driving too.

A deaf horse needs to be handled a little differently, but they are pretty much the same as most other horses. With deafness being a genetic deffect, it might be difficult for some to even consider and if reporting it means the horses registration papers are 'pulled' then there are going to be people who will not comply, who lie through their teeth and otherwise skirt the issue altogether.

With the number of folks out there who lie about so much concerning a horse already, deafness will just be one more thing for them to lie about. How they sleep at night, many of us will never know!

Evergrey said...

Buckedoff- thank you. I wish I could do something more concrete though!

I did write to that "don't write to me about slaughter because it's not legal in California so it doesn't happen I can't hear you LA LAAA LAAA LAAAA" free horse person. I prefaced it with "I'm trying hard to find someone who can take your horse, though I cannot take him myself," but I wish I could just get him out of there. :/

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SkyHigh said...

Maria: Thank you for understanding my views.

Appybutt: I am aware that my name can be interpreted differently than what it is, which is why I explained it. I didn't "fail" to see that it could be interpreted in other ways.

CutNJump: I am NOT hiding behind my youth. I KNOW the evils of slaughter. What I am saying is that I CONDONE HUMANE SLAUGHTER METHODS, such as what Maria posted.

Why do you all jump over somebody with a different opinion? I didn't post to get people riled up- I posted to ask Fugly (and the rest of you) a legitimate question.